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at revenue from somebody. on the state side, when i got elections a $3.65 billion deficit. the worst in the nation. i quickly realized it's too large to tax your way out of or to cut your way out. it had to be a combination. that portion hasn't happened to the extent we presumed it would. this year, we have to trim expenditures by $365 million more than we otherwise would have. but, the grand bargain with the public is, to maintain a level of service they have a comfort level with. to not overdo it, not overextend ones self. >> when grow to voters and say, we are going to raise taxes, what is the pitch? >> i did 14 town hall meetings, no, 17 town hall meetings and got yelled at at every single one of them. we had a conversation with the public about what are the options. if you are talking cutting a budget by 17% because that's what the revenue short fall was, they quickly understood, you can't cut a budget 17% in a single year and sustain the level of services that allow their children to be educate and their mother and father remain in a nursing home and receive benefits and so see
accomplish something. if you go back to before bush tax cuts, three quarters of the deficit is gone. it was supposed to sunset two years ago. when is a good time to let those things sunset? >> you're right, there's never a good time. >> maybe do something with the sequester, but let the tax cuts expire. >> although i have to say at this time it's too much i think in terms of the tax increase. >> we never want any pain. >> you're right. and we do need to get our fiscal house in order. but again, this is why the idea would be to come up with a longer term plan where you could scale some of these things in and you have to come up with a plan that you'll stick to, otherwise you get into this where -- >> we never stick to anything. if we get another deal that is toothless and -- >> the markets will become even more skeptical because we've seen this before. but i have to say two things. i don't necessarily buy into the deal that there's a fiscal slope. i have to say on the tax side, one of the things we keep talking about is the amt. boy, that's something that will -- >> howard goes on an
, we have a trillion dollar annual deficit and this would not close that gap at all. so the president needs to come up with a plan and for better or worse going to require leadership. no member of the senate or the house is going to be able to do this, this is something the president has to do by himself and he can't do it on the campaign trail. >> let me ask you this because you wrote an op-ed today and you wrote about divided government about the deal. you said divided government means that neither democrats nor republicans will be able to pass legislation along strictly partisan lines. we cannot tax our way back to budget surpluses and economic prosperity without major spending cuts and entitle 347b9 reforms we will continue running a huge deficit regardless of what anyone does on either side. for every dollar of revenue you give him, he'll give you $2.50 of spending cuts. if he gave you that on spending cuts, it would be 8$850 billon year would you do that? >> the president has said a lot of things, but what counts is what he's willing to put on the table and so far, he hasn't put
is on the line. >> we've got to reduce our long-term deficit. that's also important to long-term economic growth. and we have said we need to do that in a balanced way. >> how gutless is it to blame the people who are still working in this country? >> the only reason democrats are insisting on raising rates is because raising rates on the so-called rich is liberalism. >> asking for a political price to be paid in order congress to do its job, to ensure that the united states of america pays its bills, does not default for the first time in its history is deeply irresponsible. >> how gutless is it to blame them for the problems that exist in this country? >> their interested in wealth destruction. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. >> president obama had said that he has pen in hand, he's prepared to sign the middle class tax cuts. >> i think it's important congress act now, i mean right now. >> they're still not paying they're fair share? the people working have to pay even more in order to cover the incompetent errors by the spenders over all these years. >> greta: for
and supporting unspecified revenue hicks to cut the deficit and big business resigned to higher taxes. here is lloyd blankfine. >> we had to lift up the marginal rate. >> norquist's response? >> some of these people have had impure thoughts. no one pulled the trigger and voted for a tax increase. >> to be sure, norquist is still raking in big bucks. according to open secrets.org, he shelled out almost $14 million to defeat democratic opponents in this past election cycle. >> we've run ads to let people know who it taking the pledge and who doesn't. we'll do phones into letting people know who is taking the pledge. >> norquist's big backers are republican operatives, cross roads gps, the superpack led by kingpin karl rove and the center to protect patient rights. closely tied to the ultra conservative cook brothers. they account for a majority of the budget and there's no sign that they're running scared. norquist truly believes that best way to grow the economy is to tame big government. he told me recently he will be vindicated no matter how many politicians break the pledge. what happens
have a fiscal deficit we also have an infrastructure deficit. that would give two advantages. one, it would employ people in this country at a time when unemployment is too high. and numb two it uld improve the competive position of the country so, that's a to-for. >> susie: senator conrad, thank you for coming to the program. we appreciate it. >> thank you, always good to be with you. >> reporter: i'm erika miller in new york. still ahead, we'll look at why silver has been one of the best performing asset classes this year. >> tom: the u.s. economy was hotter than first thought this summer. in the newest data on the gross domestic product, the economy grew in the third quarter at its fastest pace of the year. e revis report said the economy grew at a 2.7% clip. that's well above the previously reported 2% growth. adding fuel was restocking inventories, which is not expected to continue. higher federal government spending and stronger u.s. exports also helped. the impact super-storm sandy has had on the job market seems to be dissipating. 23,000 fewer americans filed for first-tim
, deficit reduction. not hearing specifically about mortgage interest deduction but hearing about closing the loopholes. republicans say this is what's on the table from the white house. raising marginal tax rates on the very rich. extending both the social security payroll tax break and unemployment benefits for next year. the government wants to -- the white house wants to defer the sequester for a year and then launch this new multi-year stimulus package that would be at least $50 billion last year, infrastructure spending. also get this, a permanent increase in the debt limit, and they would take the debt ceiling approval away from congress. robert reich, do you have any problems with all of these things? >> well, most of them are steps in the right direction. i think that actually taking the debt ceiling approval away from congress sounds radical but it really isn't. that's a technicality. you don't want the debt ceiling ever to be negated. you are don't want congress to ever say no because that's the full faith and credit of the united states. that's what we went through before. a m
, congress realized that if they couldn't compromise on a deficit and revenue plan, our economy would crash. turns out they couldn't compromise. so here's what they did. in order to force themselves to work together and compromise, they concocted a catastrophic penalty that would itself crash our economy. brilliant. put it another way. if there is an asteroid headed towards the earth, we made it and fired it at ourselves. because otherwise we would never have done the hard work required to protect ourselves from asteroids. >> good morning. it's friday, november 30th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, we have msnbc political analyst and vice president and executive editor of msnbc.com, richard wolffe is here. >> he's here? >> my lord. right here on the set. political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. >> hi. >> cute thing. and msnbc political analyst and visiting professor at nyu and former democratic congressman harold ford jr. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> he's reading. >> put that down right now. put the smut down. close it up. >> i'm l
and its deficit. that's what we need. to try to slam the brakes right now and get to balance tomorrow is not desirable. economists will come on your show and tell you that that would not be good for the economy. so i think we're dealing with a degree of artificiality right there. >> congressman keith ellison, thanks for joining us. >> any time. thank you. >>> for more on this, let's bring in our cnn political contributor and republican strategist, mary matalin and cornel belcher, democratic strategist and pollster with the obama 2012 campaign. mary, what do you make of the details of this opening bid from the white house? republicans have already dismissed it but does it give us any clues at all about what an eventual deal might look like? >> it's reported that mitch mcconnell, senate minority leader, burst out laughing when he heard it. it's not even worthy of a laugh. it's really sad, it's pathetic. we went from a reasonable theoretical $3 in cuts for $1 in revenue which was basically the simpson-bowles, and are now at $4 of real and immediate tax increases plus new spending for in
to work, a lot of the deficit goes away. >> didn't they say that last time? >> i didn't vote for that and the word stimulus is totally discredited. it did not -- 7% of that bill was investment and infrastructure. 42% was tax cuts. we've been trying tax cuts for more than a decade. they don't put people back to work. real investment does. we have report after report, economist after economist, real investment will put millions of people back to work. >> right. those were tax cuts of the vast middle in this country. what you want to extend and the republicans. i'm still confused. if the president wants $1.6 trillion in revenue and is going to do his math, that's $3 trillion in cuts. why only put 400 billion out? >> well, he's probably leaving himself a little room to negotiate. >> a little. >> is reasonable on medicare. if he just started negotiating lower drug prices, that saves medicare $230 billion over ten years. and then you deal with some of these high cost private insurance plans under medicare and a couple of other minor changes that won't hurt average american, won't m
of the bipartisan team that offered a deficit reduction plan in 2010. >> i'm hopeful but don't put me down anywhere near in optimistic category. >> reporter: >> every week, he spends campaigning for his ideas is a week that we're not solving the problem. it's completely counterproductive. >> reporter: treasury secretary will be on the capitol hill. president obama travels to philadelphia friday to push for an extension of tax cuts for washington families. >> still today, really would. in renewed hopes about am the dows. the -- president obama plans to host this former rival. during this election, victory speech, um remember that the president said to look forward to talking with romney about how the two men can work together. >>> a lot of hopefuls in 42 states have less than an hour to get in on the record paul ball jackpot. injuries dreaming of the potential pay off. $550 million. that's more than half a billion dollars. now the odds of correctly matching the numbers are 1/175 million. california does not participate in the power ball lottery. >>> but for a good cause, the 90-year-old says she'll
that doubled the tax hikes that he campaigned on and it adds about $150 billion more, not less to the deficit in and new spending. to republicans with that kind of equivalent of lucy and the football and they are laying flat on their backs? >> republicans scoffed at this first foray from the white house. they thought was ridiculous. for the white house it was the first attempt, first specific plan we've seen since the election being put out there. it was frankly a wish list. john boehner acknowledges as much in his comments was that the white house would like to see. if we do get a deal before christmas it won't look anything like this. >> gregg: instead of meeting with members of congress, even day after day and tens of thousands of dollars the president doesn't do that. the president heads back on the campaign trail gives speeches about it. how frustrating is this to some of the folks on capitol hill who do want to sit down and work with him? >> i think it's frustrating to some members of congress, perhaps members of his own party more than anything. if you look at his record he doesn't do
a balanced approach to deficit reduction that doesn't hurt the economy and doesn't hurt middle class families. if we agree that we should not raise taxes on middle class families, let's begin our work with where we agree. >> of course there are some lawmakers who are not that optimistic. they don't think there's enough time between now and the end of the year to get a deal done. nonetheless the president will continue pushing his message. he heads to pennsylvania tomorrow. he will go to a manufacturing plant where he will continue talking about extending the middle class tax cuts, not extending them for the upper class americans. in the meantime, there's pushback from republicans who are saying the president should not be out the road campaigning but back here in washington negotiating. >> dan, i will ask you to look into your crystal ball. president obama is meeting with mitt romney later today. do you have any idea what they plan to discuss? >> you know, there's a lot of speculation about governor romney playing a role in the administration. but the president himself, during his victory spe
to bring down our deficits and stream line tax. including asking the wealthiest americans to pay more for education and train science and research. >> any republican who buys this is a fool. republicans have stood for one thing statistically that held them. they are the low tax party. the other guys want to tax to match their reckless spending. if they give it up now in return for nothing, obama wins and high wins big. i understand why the democrats are doing this. they imagine that republicans have no bargaining power today . i say that it is true if republicans resist they will take the blame and that will help democrats in the congress. but obama's never running again. he doesn't care who gets the blame. he is the president and a blame duck. he wants a successful second term. if it starts by going over the cliff it starts with second recession and wrecked second term. >> steve: that's why the president said i would be willing to do anything to get a deal. >> gretchen: it is not a deal. this is what the american public needs to know. this is raising taxos successful people and reduc
deficit reduction and this is basically that a stop- active measure to save it or to get a deal done. nobody wants to go there but we need deficit reduction and this is how we to it. >> . read saying that was not doing that well but now, john boehner is a saying that it is a little bit better what is going on? >> not really anything they are still talking at each other and the president is now bringing more to the bargaining table for john boehner to bring more provisions for the debt ceiling. >> at least four more weeks to get this done this is huge which is already it is a lumbering along in doing anything realistically was of the public expect at this point? >> what the president is trying to to he has the upper holtz. congress is the one in the hot seat right now he has the upper--hand. that is why he keeps on adding to the bargain what we just pass this. and no tax increase for the other middle-class and let the others expire. remember, that this is just a lot. if this is pressed of just a couple of weeks. >> they do not care. >> the public does not care. >> what washington does
, not just to avoid the damage of the sequester but to help reduce our long-term deficit. >> i was disappointed by the president's proposal. i think it is essentially a rerun of his budget proposal. the revenue proposals are $1.6 trillion in revenue and tax increases. it's a massive tax increase. but also not significant and meaningful in entitlement reforms. >> so, anna, i hear comments like those and remarks by john boehner and the president of the united states and i wonder after the election, did we learn anything? because i -- my reading on the election was that the people, the voters wanted compromise. and for the people in washington to talk to each other not at each other. that still appears to be what they're doing, no? >> i think right after the election that was the message that even president obama and john boehner and the entire leadership, we saw that incredible image of the minority and majority leaders on both houses come out saying things that sounded like they were going to cooperate. but, you know, only in washington can that mean nothing quickly. but i do th
of a comprehensive plan to cut the federal deficit. they say they are looking for a way to save faces a they give in. >>> and they are looking for billions of dollars in cuts as they prepare to go over that fiscal cliff. hundreds of thousands of the jobs all over california could be affected, allison? >> 135 government workers in california could lose their jobs if there is no deal on those spending cuts that kick in at the end of the month. they say not only to plan for the cuts but that has changed. they are preparing to slice about 10% of their budget. experts are looking at 135 defense employees could lose their jobs but experts say there is still time to reach a deal and avoid those major lawsuits. >> nobody wants to reach a deal more than i. i will be ready to sit down with the president and solve this. >> reporter: they could be hit the hardest and i will have more about it during my next update on ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> they are looking at grant money from the environmental protection agency. each student could be awarded a large sum of money. stanford's group wants to disinfect dr
that resulted in this enormous deficit, because in the 199os, we had a $5.6 trillion surplus. what the president is trying to do is to give relief to working people, and as well provide revenue to continue to support the needs of this nation. such as mayor bloomberg, who's just come to washington and asked for an enormous amount of money, rightly so, to help those who've been victims of hurricane sandy. so the president is not in any way suggesting that he's not willing to negotiate. he asked the questions, when are the republicans going to be considerate of those who get up every day and work? or those who need medicare or social security and medicaid? that is what the bottom line is for the president and for democrats, to protect benefits in a reasonable manner, and to ensure that we have the revenue to bring down the deficit and to continue to operate in the needs of the american people. >> i'd like to talk about those entitlement programs because i know that this is very near and dear to your heart. the lion's share of the $400 billion in cuts are expected to come from medicare and possibly
of americans, democrats, republicans, independents, they agreed with a balanced approach to deficit reduction and making sure that middle class taxes don't go up. folks agreed to that. now, the good news is we're starting to see a few republicans coming around to it too. >> jessica yellin at the white house, how much of this is kabooki dance? >> reporter: the real issue is, again, over raising tax rates. that is where both sides are feeling each other out. and the white house is adamant that they will not budge on this issue. and the bottom line is house republicans say that that's a no-go for them, joe. and so the question is, will house republicans come around on raising tax rates? you know, right now they say they're not going to move on it. so the white house is sort of holding back and waiting to see if house republicans move on that one issue. and right now they are very far apart because there's no giff on that. on the entitlements question, the white house does have to go further than they've gone. they have been willing to give some, but they have to go further. and the white house i
deficits it, to streamline our tax system. to do it in a balanced way. including asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more. >> the problem with that strategy is that republic leaders are insisting that they don't want to take a framework for spending cuts down the road in exchange for tax changes now. they want it all done at the same time so that they can be sure that if taxes are going up on the rich, that in fact some of those spending cuts to bring down the debt will actually materialize. it might make it more likely to go of 00 cliff even though the president insisted today he thinks there will be a deal within weeks, shep. >> shepard: as for extending tax cuts for middle class americans it sounds like there is some agreement on that matter. >> it sounds like some republicans rank and file republicans are starting to turn away a little bit from speaker john boehner. tom coal rank and file member. is he part of the leadership but from oklahoma and basically said today extend them for the large majority for the middle class and come back and fight it out in january instea
we have here, the real driver of budget deficits, the real threat to american economics, superiority in this world, out of control-- the president of the united states, the president for four yea years, no credible plan for tackling that spending. >> dave: there's been nothing put on paper when it comes to entitlements from the president one thing he's been afraid to do. now he's been reelected don't be afraid to face the voters. tack tackle entitlement and changes to survive. >> alisyn: isn't that the beauty of the second term. incumbency you're no longer bo ho holden to anyone. >> and that 1.6 trillion dollar. before 800 billion and now it's 1.6 trillion. maybe that's the second term speaking. >> alisyn: let's talk about what's going on with the christmas tree. as you know, it's christmas season and that means that there will be incidents where the p.c. police are out in force, checking and calling your tree, a holiday tree or a christmas tree and this has. this is brewing in massachusetts because the mayor of a small town, well, a city in massachusetts, a small river had invited r
agreed on where we need to be. they want to agree if they can bring down the deficit in terms of bringing more taxes in terms of revenue or cutting spending. and the third leg of that is something we don't know. how can we make the economy grow, if the economy grows faster, then we don't need to cut as much and we don't need as much revenue. the growth of the economy is in a way the fuzziest of all these things, because you don't know how fast, you can have estimates, you do have, the birth in the hand is you know you can bring in more revenue if you raise taxes on the wealthiest americans. you know you can save money if you cut entitlements. the question is how far do we want to go down the road of solving the problem. some people may say, we don't have to get all the way, as long as we make progress and we show to americans that you guys are in good hands with us, because at least we're going in the right direction, right now we can't even say that. >> right, so really that's what the wild card is, and what's so interesting, is you know, all of these things have a price tag. you raise t
how to deal with this deficit. it is all there, you know, in black and white. anybody can read that plan. it has entitlement cuts, it has, you know, cuts in various programs and so on. so they have been pretty specific about what they want. by the way, in the senate, there is no budget for three years. >> here's the thing -- >> but let me raise the other point. i think jessica had it not exactly right when she said the republicans haven't been specific about how they would be willing to raise taxes. what republicans are saying is we're willing to put a cap on deductions of $30,000, $40,000, $50,000, haven't been specific about the number, but that's a way to reduincrease the taxes o wealthier taxpayers but in a way that doesn't raise tax rates. that seems to be a big concession. >> i'm talking about negotiations. if the american people wanted paul ryan's plan, they would have voted for paul ryan. they didn't. they voted for compromise. and that's not happening. wouldn't the most direct way, the best way would be a counteroffer of some sort? with specifics? >> well, you know, do
-era rates. which would raise marginal tax rates on the rich from 36% to 39.6%. a real deficit reduction. 70% of the american people support that. they can't even come to terms with that. they seem to have not noticed the republicans that we did have an election. the president campaigned on this question of continuing tax cuts for the middle class but raising them back to the clinton rates -- returning to the clinton rates for the top 2%. he pledged that he would veto anything but that. and he will. so until the republicans agree to those clinton-era rates, we are going to go off the fiscal cliff. >> you know, it's interesting, ari, you'll remember this because you were the white house press secretary in 2001 and 2003 when those bush-era tax rates were approved basically by republicans, very few democrats voted to approve those bush-era tax cuts. so why not do what the republican congressman from oklahoma says, what paul just said, go ahead, declare victory. say, look, all these democrats are now on board, they support for 98% of the american people the bush-era tax rates for a long time to
our deficit. and mr. bowles himself said there is no serious discussion of spending cuts so far. and unless there is, there is a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. listen, going off the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and will cost american jobs. republicans have taken action to avert the fiscal cliff by passing legislation to stop all the tax hikes. to replace the sequester, and pave way for -- pave the way for tax reform and entitlement reform. and we're the only ones with a balanced plan to protect the economy, protect american jobs, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. but without spending cuts and entitlement reforms, it's going to be impossible to address our country's debt crisis. and get our economy going again and to create jobs. so right now, all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. it's time for the president, congressional democrats, to tell the american people what spending cuts they're really willing to make. with that i'll take a few questions. >> speaker boehner, why will you not tell
in these negotiations or in terms of reducing this $1.1 trillion deficit if you don't do something about these entitlements. so everyone's kind of waiting, when will the president come forward with those? >> if i could just jump in really quick, one of the problems with entitlement cuts is they don't produce a lot of savings in the first ten years. so, if we're going to be obsessively folked on the ratio between revenue and spending, then republicans are going to be in for some disappointment because all the things they want on entitlements basically phase in. this is consistent what they said about not wanting to change things for people over 55. and the fact that even paul ryan and mitt romney ran away from entitlement cuts in paul ryan's budget in the last election i think is a sign of where the american public is. they want the rich to pay their fair share in taxes, but they really don't like a lot of cuts. >> to some extent. >> and erin, look, in response to what you were just saying about the fact these savings don't really kick in for ten years, that is a legitimate point. look wh
, and of course hopefully reduce the deficit as well. very busy day there at the white house. on thursday, we have all our eyes on washington. two controversial changes in washington state, same-sex marriage becomes legal on thursday in washington state. we'll also be looking at marijuana. adults over 21 can legally carry up to an ounce of pot, sort of. the federal government still says pot is an illegal drug. that's how they're going to do it in washington on thursday. and on friday, we'll be watching for the jobs report. this is the november jobs report. in october, 171,000 jobs were add a added, you may recall. experts think superstorm sandy could affect this. a lot of people having a hard time getting around, power is out. really put a lot of folks behind. we'll see how that goes. on saturday, a big day for college football fans. heisman trophy winner will be announced. we'll find out who the best player in college football is. last year, can you remember who it is? nfl star robert griffin iii won the heisman. that's your week ahead. >>> well, his name was jordan davis, a 17-year-old boy who w
's budget deficit. stocks also rallied on a pair of good reports on jobs and the housing market looking at the numbers.. day up 37 points to close gained six- points. >> let us talk about how >> the trend so far it is aggressive with a good year it is helping already economy. purchases were up for the month of october, with a 5.2% and was only supposed to be a one-person climate. so people feel better and better they're putting it there homes of personal we were supposed to only see a-1% climbing up prices. and a substantial component to our building block of our economy. >> they do not seem to like macy's, donald trump is that having an impact on his product at macy's? >> i have never understood this in any way, shape, form. they look at this as a businessman. he made his money by inherited his a father's money. despite the wanted to dump truck with macy's the have not done it. and even the c f o came out of we listen to the customer. but they should take a look at the new research that came from yougov.. the approval pretty tea-35 it has plunged below to the worst retell author, which
creating a bit of a deficit in other areas? >> remember, as you -- as you said, and your very good question about piecemeal versus comprehensive, this is a piecemeal approach, and as long as we agree on the end game and where we're going, we need, you know, a path to legalization for people who have been here, who don't have a criminal background, who have been working and contributing, who have really been trying to access the american dream, and our immigration laws don't allow them to do that. >> mr. secretary -- >> we also need -- we also need a future vision for immigration. how do we manage immigration in the future? we have 75 categories. we need to change our laws, but the republican party needs to be the party of immigration, and by the way, the democrats haven't proven yet that they are the party of immigration. we'll see how they deal with the zmt s.tm s.t.e.m. act in the senate. >> what you just articulated, my question is how does that get through a republican primary? mitt romney felt the need to go far right, closer to the far right than even newt gingrich when he brought up
built more to build up inventories. the u.s. trade deficit narrowed as well. >> apples, itunes music software could launch as early as today. this is the second eight of the self- imposed deadline. the original overall was slated for last month. the original overhaul was september of 2010. >> we will have a complete check of weather and traffic we're watching and waiting for the storm system. here is a live look from the south they were traffic 1016 to slow down a bit. the camera is shaking so we know that it is windy as well. it will take a look at traffic and will come back to the kron for morning new striking a hot spot on the nimitz freeway. oakland a big rig was just cleared from the lanes northbound at from fail. it managed to block things long enough that it back up the traffic into san leandro. it has pushed the drive time to 20 minutes from 238 up 2980. it has added about eight-nine minutes to the drive. you can use interstate 580 for a while and save yourself time. again the big rig has been cleared from the traffic lanes. a quick bridge check as we continue our coverage yo
,200. >> they urged him to pass a law to bring down deficits. the house speaker said talks are going nowhere. >> i'm willing to move forward in good faith. our framework still stands. instead of raising tax rates we can prodice similar amount of revenue, reforming the tax code to close loopholes and lower tax rates. >> the speaker said the two sides are at a stalemate. if nothing is done hundreds of millions of dollars of tax increases and cuts will take effect january 1st. >>> thousands who will out of work in the state cad loose their unemployment in four weeks unless congress reached a deal to avoid that fiscal cliff. letters have already gone out to almost 350,000 people in danger of losing their benefits. more than 2 million nationwide could loss also be affected. >>> bay area school lunch menus are changing as part of a push to get people to eat healthier food. they have been redone to meet new nutrition guidelines president the times reports students in many bay area school distributes are getting more fruits, vegetables and whole grains and less salt. >> flu season is off to a strong sta
. what i heard you say, this deficit reduction, the economic questions, part of what i'm interested in, post '08 the conservative voices that emerge were the limbaughs and the glenn beck rather than elected leaders. what i'm wondering, is there a way in which elected republicans might help to move conservatism towards an actual conservatism as opposed to the social angst that we saw last time? >> i kind of reject the premise of the post '08. the most interesting development post '08 was something that you could not have predicted at this stage four years ago to the day, which is the rise of a pop list anti-government spending wing of the country and of the electorate. not anti-tax, anti-government spending. the tea party. you did get new voices talking in a different way. rand paul is not talking in the same way that a rick santorum or a newt gingrich has talked about. marco rubio doesn't talk. mike lee, there's a lot of different people who talk differently here. one question, chris christie is another. this class of 2010. that is an interesting wing. it's unclear whether that wing, i
unlicensed contractors or from sonoma county. >> charges a been filed against its deficits go manicures kidnap and rape and an autistic girl walked away from her group home in oakland. 360 gary atkinson appeared in court to be arraigned on charges that include rape, kidnapping and lewd act on it child. prosecutors say, result of the gross times over three day. four she managed to escape. atkinson has been convicted several felonies before including robbery and assault with a deadly weapon. >> officers believe this ring is a small part of a larger ring which is going on in san francisco and other locations to out the bay. police have arrested three people. what about electronic devices have been covered valued at half a million dollars. the so items include one itself of more than 75 laptop jewelry and 32,000 house in cash. >> a. severs is possible visor's no concern about the spike in self on a tablet that since the city. about scott wenner said the robbers are critical public safety problem that must be addressed. winner said he will call for a hearing of the public safety committee an
has been public, what president obama wants, or at least his opening offer for deficit reduction, about $1.6 trillion in new taxes and significantly less in spending cuts. in entitlement reform, and now you have the white house really sensing that they have some leverage here, saying to house republicans, you know what? you go ahead and you put the meat on the bones when it comes to this really politically precarious part of entitlement which is often construed as cutting entitlements like medicare. here's what tim geithner said. >> we laid out a program of how we do it in what stages with $600 million of spending cuts in ten years over entitlement programs. the thing now is for them to come to us and say here's what we think makes sense. we've told them hat we think makes sense. they have to come tell us. >> so he's drawing a line there in the sand. we also heard over the weekend from house speaker john boehner that he found geithner's proposal flabbergasting. he said it wasn't serious. but what you have, zoraida, is the white house and democrats sensing that they do have the le
the rich with are not going to go to pay down the deficit. they are not going to help them. they are going to lay off 700,000 of them who won't have jobs. and the republics need to simplify the message to simply say if you think the government isn't spending enough money, then support the president. if you think that what we really need to do is stop spending away our grandchildren's future, then you better just tell the president it's time to sit down, come home to washington, stop the speeches, stop the campaigning and get serious about being president of the united states. >> governor, we are talking this morning about a school down in florida. one of probably many schools around the country that have taken down their nativity scenes. they are replacing it with a little frosty the snowman. board of education guy you are going to have problems with the church and the state the school said we don't want to have any sort of lawsuits and deal with that we will take this stuff away. rhode island, the christmas confusion there. the governor there has a problem with calling it a christmas tree
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